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2006/7/16 ¤U¤È 12:01:40

Dear all,

The article quoted is a very common (albeit incorrect) understanding as to the history of the early Church.

To disprove their understanding, one simiply needs to look at the writing of the early Farthers, those who lived century before the magical year of 313 AD.

A good artcile on this topic:

http://web.archive.org/web/20040404142419/catholicoutlook.com/earlycath.html

Hope that helps

Francis

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