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To: ¿W¥ß«ä¦Ò
You are a Catholic, aren¡¦t you?
Mark 14:22 While they were eating, Jesus took some bread, and after a blessing He broke it, and gave it to them, and said, "Take it; this is My body."
Mark 14:23 And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He gave it to them, and they all drank from it.
Mark 14:24 And He said to them, "This is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many.
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To ¿W¥ß«ä¦Ò,
If anyone denies that in the sacrament of the most Holy Eucharist are contained truly, really and substantially the body and blood together with the soul and divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ, and consequently the whole Christ, but says that He is in it only as in a sign, or figure or force, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA
(Canons on the Most Holy Sacrament of the Eucharist, Canon 1).
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Posted - 2008/6/25 ¤W¤È 02:03:54
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Dear morrie,
Calm down.
獨立 already declare that he has not been baptized.
Let us just pray for him and entrust the mercy of our God to guide him.
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Dear Simon,
I could think of a circumstance in which the person is baptized on his death-bed and is too ill to receive the Communion even by mouth.
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Posted - 2008/6/26 ¤U¤È 10:56:42
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Posted - 2008/6/27 ¤W¤È 07:58:26
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In the baptismal liturgy there is a vow to renounce Satan and to profess the Faith. If a person is to enter the Catholic Church (i.e. receive baptism), he must be ready to embrace the whole "package" of doctrine that the Church teaches and pertaining to the Faith. Otherwise his conversion is insincere and he is morally dishonest by taking a false vow. In addition, he commits an act of sacrilege in the eyes of the Church.
A formal heretic is a person who, after receiving Baptism, knowingly, willfully and obstinately refuses to accept any doctrine which the Church requires us to believe as divinely revealed. He/she is then in a state of grave sin and is not worthy to receive the other sacraments, including Holy Communion. After sincere repentance, he/she may receive forgiveness via the Sacrament of Penance in order to restore full communion with the Church.
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