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bryanmok


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2008/11/13 ¤U¤È 05:23:53

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simon


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2008/11/14 ¤U¤È 03:49:59

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bryanmok


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2008/11/14 ¤U¤È 06:26:17

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bryanmok


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2008/11/15 ¤W¤È 10:13:36

Simon¥S,

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simon


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2008/11/16 ¤W¤È 12:12:25

bryanmok,

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hubert


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2008/11/27 ¤W¤È 01:08:04

Bryanmok,

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(1) ¸t¥ÀµL­ì¸o¨Ã¤£§_»{¸t¥Àªº¤H©Ê¡A¥¿¦pSimon©Ò»¡¡u¸t¥À¬O¤H¡A¤£¬O¯«¡v¡A¦o¬O¨È·íªº«á¥N¡C

(2) ·s±Ð¤º³¡©Î³\¹ï¡u­ì¸o¡v¥»¨­ªº¹ê½è·N¸q¦³¬Û·í¦hªºª§½×¡A¦ý¤Ñ¥D±Ð±Ð²z«o²M·¡¦a«ü¥X¡G¡u­ì¸o¬O¥HÃþ¤ñªº¤è¦¡³QºÙ¬°¸o¡G¥¦¬O·P¬V¦Ó«DIJ¥Çªº¸o¡A¬O±¡ªp¦Ó«D¦æ°Ê¡C¡v¡]¤Ñ¥D±Ð±Ð²z404±ø¡^¤Î¡u­ì¸o¦b©ó¯Ê¥F­ì©lªº¸t¼w©M¸q¼w¡K¸t¬~¦bµ¹¤©°ò·þ®¦Ãdªº¥Í©R®É¡A§â­ì¸oº°°£¡A¨Ï¤H­«·sÂk¦V¤Ñ¥D¡C¡v¡]¤Ñ¥D±Ð±Ð²z405±ø¡^

(3) ¬°¦¹¡A¸t¥ÀµL¬V­ì¸o¤£¬O«ü¦o§@¹L¥ô¦ó¯«¤O©Î¥\¼w¨Ï¦Û¤vªº­ì¸o®ø¥¢¡A¦Ó¬O¦]¬°¦o¬O¡u¥Rº¡®¦ÃdªÌ¡]¸ô1:28¡^¡v¡A¤Ñ¥Dªº®¦Ãd¦­¤w¦b¸t¥À©l­L®ÉÄéª`¡A¨Ï¦oªº¸t¼w©M¸q¼w¦b¦¨­Lªº¤@¨è´N¥R¬Õº¡·¸¡A¥¿¦p1854¦~±Ð©v¤ñ¬ù¤E¥@©Ò«Å¥¬ªº©l­LµL¬V­ì¸o«H±ø¤¤´£¨ì:
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(4) ¬G¦¹¡A¸t¥ÀµL¬V­ì¸o¬O¦]¬°¡u¤Ñ¥D¦b³Ð¥@¤§«e¡A¤w¦b°ò·þ¤º´z¿ï¤F¦o¡v (¤Ñ¥D±Ð±Ð²z492±ø¡^¡A©Ò¥H¡u¦]¤Ñ¥Dªº®¦Ãd¡A¦b¦oªº¤@¥Í¤¤¡A¡i°£¤F¨S¦³¬V­ì¸o¥~¡j¡A±q¥¼¥Ç¹L¥ô¦ó¥»¸o¡v(¤Ñ¥D±Ð±Ð²z493±ø¡^¡C


Paulus


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2008/11/28 ¤U¤È 04:35:13

§Ú¦³ÂI¤£»{¦PHubertªºÆ[ÂI, ¦b§Æ§B¨Ó®Ñ, ¸o±q¨È·í¨Óªº, ¦Ó±Ï®¦¬O±q­C¿q¨Óªº, µS¤Ó¤H¥H¨k©Ê¬°¤¤¤ß, ©Ò¥H³Ì­«­n¬O¤÷¨tªºÃö«Y, ¨ä¹ê, §Ú­Ì¬J¬Û«H­C¿q¬O¬@±Ï¾ú¥v¤¤¥t¤@·s"¤HÃþ", ³o¼Ë, ¬°¤°»ò­n°õµÛ"¸t¥À"¦³¨S¦³­ì¸o, ¨ä¹ê, §Ú­Ì¨Ã¤£¬O¤Ñ¥D, §Ú¨S¦³Åv§Q,Åv¤O¥h¥NªíÍ¢¼f§P¸t¥À. ¦ý§Ú¬Û«H­C¿q¨S¦³­ì¸o, ¬O¦]¬°Í¢±q¸t¯«¦Ó¨Ó, º¿§Q¨È¦]¸t¯«"·P¥¥", ¦Ó¥Í¤F­C¿q. ³Ì­«­n¬O­C¿q¨S¦³¸o.

¦AªÌ, §Ú­ÌÀ³¦V¦PÆ[ÂI¤è­±, Ä~Äò¦V«e°Q½×, ¥S§Ì©n©f¦]¬°·Qªk¤£¦P¦Ó¶Ë·P±¡, ¤S¦³¤°»ò¯q³B.

³Ì«á, §Ú·Q¤j®a¥h·Q, §Ú­Ì¥Ç¸o, ¬O¦]¬°¦³­ì¸o, §í©Î¬O§Ú­Ì¥h¥Ç¸o? ¦Ó"¤U¦aº»", ¬O¤£¬O§Ú­Ì¥Ç¸o«á·í±oªºÃgŸé?

simon


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2008/12/1 ¤U¤È 03:52:51

Paulus,

§A»¡¡G¡u¬°¤°»ò­n°õµÛ"¸t¥À"¦³¨S¦³­ì¸o, ¨ä¹ê, §Ú­Ì¨Ã¤£¬O¤Ñ¥D, §Ú¨S¦³Åv§Q,Åv¤O¥h¥NªíÍ¢¼f§P¸t¥À. ¡v

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Paulus


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2008/12/2 ¤U¤È 10:03:04

Simon

§Ú·Q³o¤£¬O´y­z, ¦AªÌ§Ú·Q­n¦³®Ú¾Ú¤~¥i´y­z, ¦Ó¥B, ¤Ñ¥D¬O¨S¦³­ì¸o, ¦]¬°¤Ñ¥D¤£¬O±q¨È·í¥Í¥X¨Ó, ­C¿q¬O±q¸t¯«¦Ó¥Í, ³o¼Ë, ´N¥i¸ÑÄÀ­C¿q¨S¦³­ì¸o.

¦Ü©ó, ¸t¥À¦³¨S¦³­ì¸o, ´N¥u¦³¬Û«H or not.

simon


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2008/12/3 ¤W¤È 10:39:45

Paulus,

§A»¡¡G¡u¤Ñ¥D¬O¨S¦³­ì¸o, ¦]¬°¤Ñ¥D¤£¬O±q¨È·í¥Í¥X¨Ó, ­C¿q¬O±q¸t¯«¦Ó¥Í, ³o¼Ë, ´N¥i¸ÑÄÀ­C¿q¨S¦³­ì¸o. ¡v

¨º»ò¤H­Ì¤]¥i¥H»¡¡G¡u¸t¥À±q¨È·í¦Ó¨Ó¡A©Ò¥H¸t¥À¦³­ì¸o¡C­C¿q±q¸t¥À¦Ó¨Ó¡A©Ò¥H­C¿q¤]¦³­ì¸o¡C¦]¬°­C¿q¤]¬O¤Ñ¥D¡A©Ò¥H¤Ñ¥D¤]¦³­ì¸o¡C¡v

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simon


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2008/12/3 ¤U¤È 03:52:03

¸Ü±o»¡¦^¨Ó¡A§Ú²{¦b¨­³Bªº«H¥õ¶¥¬q¡A¸t¥À¦³¨S¦³­ì¸o¡A¹ï§Ú¨Ó»¡¨Ã¨S¦³­¢¤Á©Ê¡C
©Î³\µ¥¨ì±N¨Ó¦b¤Ñ°ê¸I¨£¦o¡A°Ý­Ó©ú¥Õ¤]¤£¿ð¡]°²³]§Ú¯à¤W¤Ñ°ê¡^¡C

Paulus


Posted -
2008/12/8 ¤U¤È 10:26:22

Simon

½Ð§A²M·¡¤@ÂI, ¦b§Æ§B¨Ó®Ñ, ¸o¬O±q¨È·í¶i¤J¥@¬É, ´N¬O­ì¸o±q¤÷¨t¦Ó¨Ó, ©Ò¥H¸t¥À¥i¥H¦³­ì¸o, ¬JµM­C¿q±q¸t¯«¦Ó¨Ó, ¥u±q¸t¥À¨ú±o¦×Âß, ¦¨¬°¤H, ¦ý¦b¥@¦³¤@­Ó"¦³¦WµL¹ê"ªº¤÷¿Ë, ©Ò¥H, ­C¿q¨S¦³­ì¸o, Í¢¦º¬O¬°§Ú­Ì¦º. ©Ò§Ú»¡§A¤£¦X²z.

¦Ü©ó¸t¥À¦³¨S¦³­ì¸o, ±Ð·|±Ð¾É§Ú­Ì "¸t¥À¨S¦³­ì¸o", §Ú­Ì¥u¦³«H»P¤£«H, ¥i¥H»¡³£¬O«H¤ß°ÝÃD, ¤£¬O¥i¥H¥Î²z¥Ñ¥h¿ë¸Ñ. ¦]¬°¸t¸g¨S¦³©ú½T«ü¥Ü.

simon


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2008/12/9 ¤W¤È 11:23:20

Paulus,

§A»¡¡G¡u¸o¬O±q¨È·í¶i¤J¥@¬É¡A´N¬O­ì¸o±q¤÷¨t¦Ó¨Ó¡C¡v

¹ï§Ú¨Ó»¡¡A³o­Ó»¡ªk«Ü©_¯S¡C

­ì¯ª¤Ì«½©M¨È·í³£¥Ç¤F¸o¡A§Ú­Ì²{¦b¦³ªº­ì¸o¡A¥u©M¨È·í¦³Ãö¡A©M¤Ì«½µLÃö¡H

§ó¶i¤@¨B¡A¦pªG±N¨Ó¬ì¾Ç®a¥Î¤k¤H§@³æ©ÊÁc´Þ¡A§Y¬O»¡¤£»Ý­n¨k¤H¡A¨º»ò³o¨Ç³æ©ÊÁc´Þ¥X¨Óªº¤H¡A¬O§_³£¨S¦³­ì¸o¡H

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morrie


Posted -
2008/12/9 ¤W¤È 11:53:39

"Accordingly, by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, for the honor of the Holy and undivided Trinity, for the glory and adornment of the Virgin Mother of God, for the exaltation of the Catholic Faith, and for the furtherance of the Catholic religion, by the authority of Jesus Christ our Lord, of the Blessed Apostles Peter and Paul, and by our own: "We declare, pronounce, and define that the doctrine which holds that the most Blessed Virgin Mary, in the first instance of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege granted by Almighty God, in view of the merits of Jesus Christ, the Savior of the human race, was preserved free from all stain of original sin, is a doctrine revealed by God and therefore to be believed firmly and constantly by all the faithful."


<Pius PP. IX, Ineffabilis Deus>

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Posted -
2008/12/10 ¤U¤È 11:27:56

«Ü¦³·N«äªº°Q½×,¤£ª¾¬°¦óbryanmok¥S§Ì¤£¨£¦A¥X²{¤F.
´N¸t¥Àªº°ÝÃD,¸t¤½·|©M¤Ñ¥D±Ðªº°ê»Ú©e­û·|ARCIC¦b2005¦~¦³¤@¥÷¤å¥ó¸Ô²Ó°Q½×Âù¤èªº¥ß³õ,¦P·N©M¤£¦P·Nªº¦a¤è,§Ú§Æ±æBRYAN¥S¦³¾÷·|¥i¥H§ä¨Ó¬Ý¬Ý:
Mary: Grace and Hope in Christ

Paulus


Posted -
2008/12/11 ¤U¤È 06:49:09

Simon

¸t¸g¼g¦b¥j®É¡A¨º®É­«¨k»´¤k¡A©Ò¥H±`±`¥u´£¨k¤H¡C¦ý§Ú¨Ã¤£»{¬°¬O³o¼Ë. ¬°¤°»ò±`´£¤Î¸t¥À¦Ó¤£´£­Y·æ©O?

The Virgin Mary was redeemed by giving the birth to the redeemer, This implies she is the first redeemed person. Anyway, she has "original" sin, she is redeemed. It is not a matter of having "original sin". As I said, faith is faith. I will not put anything accountable if I do not believe. I said we should believe the faith statement what the Church claims. We might not know all the things but we should trust the Church has this ability to provide us what should be believed.

simon


Posted -
2008/12/11 ¤U¤È 10:38:01

Paulus,

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Paulus


Posted -
2008/12/13 ¤W¤È 12:50:58

Simon

§Ú¬Û«H³æ©ÊÁc´Þ¤£¬O¦³¨S¦³­ì¸o, ¨Ì§Ú­Ó¤Hªº·N¨£¡A¨º»ò³o¨Ç³æ©ÊÁc´Þ¥X¨Óªº¤H¡A¬O¨S¦³­ì¸o. ¤£¹L, ³o¨Ç³£¯d«Ý¸t±Ð·|«ü¾É.

§Ú¬Û«H¥L­Ì¤]·|¥Ç¸o, §Y¬O»¡: ¥L­Ì³£»Ý­n³Q±ÏÅ«. §Ú»{¬°¤Ñ¥D¼f§P¤H¨Ã¤£¦b"­ì¸o"¥»¨­, ¦Ó¦b¨C­Ó¤H©Ò¥Çªº¸o, ¥H§K¦³"­øÃö§Úªº¨Æ, ³£ºâ¦b§ÚÀY¤W."

simon


Posted -
2008/12/13 ¤U¤È 02:32:45

Paulus,

§A»¡¡G¡u§Ú»{¬°¤Ñ¥D¼f§P¤H¨Ã¤£¦b"­ì¸o"¥»¨­¡A¦Ó¦b¨C­Ó¤H©Ò¥Çªº¸o¡C¡v

­Y¬O¦p¦¹¡A¹ï©ó¨º¨Ç¤@¥X¥@§Y¦ºªºÀ¦«Ä¡]¥u¦³­ì¸o¡A¨S¦³¥D°Ê¥Ç¸o¡^¡A¤Ñ¥D·|§_¼f§P¥L­Ì¡H

Paulus


Posted -
2008/12/16 ¤U¤È 11:52:20

Simon

¸t¸g´¿°OµÛ: ¤H¤H³£¦³¤@¦º, ¦º«á§ó¦³¼f§P. ¬G§Ú¬Û«H¤Ñ¥D·|¼f§P¦º¥hªºÀ¦«Ä, ¦]¥L­Ì¤£À´¦nÃa, À³¥i¤W¤Ñ°ó.

angelocheung


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2009/1/7 ¤W¤È 02:32:49

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