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2002/4/6 ¤W¤È 12:55:21

Yes, I write faster on the pen pal these days.
Too many courseworks yet to finish.
I still cant type Chinese.

The thing I dont like about is you have made the presumption that sexuality is part of human nature and no one can do away with it. This is only partly true. Yes, I agree sexuality is of course part of human nature. BUT, I think one can do away with it. Think about a widower who remains faithful to a diseased wife. Does his doing away with the need for sex makes him a potential sex abuser? Or should we have the presumption that he will end up with something to satisfied his need? The same thing about being a celibant priest.

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It follows that if we should show respect to a faithful widower rather than suspecting he will (naturally) end up somewhere satisfying his needs,
then we should show respect and encouragement to the celibants rather than assuming they are pitiful and in need of mercy.

Feeing sorry for them is like assuming they can never keep their celibacy, or they are hungry for lust like everyone else, or they are just pretending they can keep it but in fact they are sick perverts.

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Augustine


Posted -
2002/4/6 ¤U¤È 12:55:47

Totally Agree:

Why they keep transferring the "sick" priest parish to parish? Why they keep people from knowing the truth?

I think the Church bureacrats, esp. the bishops
who care more about their diocese's reputation and subsequently, their own good press(to the secular media of course) than the safety of their
flock should be condemned.

That is precisely why I cite( in the other column)
a critic by the "Crisis Magazine". There are strong voices demaning Card. Bernard Law to resign for his covering up of the scandal.

After all, why so reluctant to be honest?
Is "Good press" really so important?
Why fear Men instead of fearing God?
Not afraid of the Judgement by Christ Himself?

steve

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Posted -
2002/4/6 ¤U¤È 09:25:03

Yes totally agree as well.

Dont think celibacy has a direct cause and effect with sex problems. Only the way that church can allow these kind of things to cover up is really unacceptable.

It is unthinkable these days with any institution that can work totally without transparency. But thats the way our church works.

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